Some argue that the past is distinct from the
present, which is also distinct from the future. Yet, they are not three
'times,' but only one.
The same is said of space, where height is distinct
from width and from depth, yet there is only one space.
Walter Martin argued that water can be
solid, liquid and gas, but there are not three 'waters,' but one.
Note: I used to have a quote here from CARM (Xtian Apologetics and Research Ministry) where I had linked right back to their page. But Matt Slick of CARM had threatened me with legal action if I did not remove it. This is manipulation and information-control of the highest order. CARM also quotes extensively from the WTS without permission, yet they are completely 2 faced about all this. They are trying to control the flow of information. CARM has become the very thing they are trying to fight...a CULT organization. If CARM was more confident in their message, then I would not be conceived as a threat.If we look at time though, we see that it is measured in regards to the earth's position against the sun's. So we have 2 representing 3.
-Editor, Oct 29 2000 I will have more in the future exposing the small-mindedness of CARM. For now you can read our exchange below.
If we look at space, we have only ONE example
where space is measurable according to the rules of Euclidean geometry
It does not always follow this rule. We
also have an added problem because it is believed that space with time
are continuations of the same theory.(Space-Time Continuum). Or is space
merely 6 dimensions/sides with left and right, up and down, and forward
and back.
Does This All Sound New Age To You?
It should. New Age is also a Trinity of ancient
beliefs. It is:
It is the New Age Movement that teaches that all humans have a divine nature and that Jesus was the first New Age teacher to realize that he was God...while Trinitarians believe that Jesus, though he was a human, had a divine nature and that he is God.
The New Age Movement continues to be a big influence
on modern churches. "The most obvious reason for Christian acceptance of
such material is the fact that Biblical influence and wordliness are common
among Christians. The Church is failing to educate her people properly
in these areas."
"Christians are being influenced by the NAM(New
Age Movement) principally because of ignorance of Biblical teachings and
lack of doctrinal knowledge." The Facts on the New Age Movement byAnkerberg&Weldon
p. 17,25
Even Robert Schuller promotes it in his "Peace
of Mind through Possibility Thinking" pp. 130- 138
We know from ancient history that the worship
of triads(trinities) meant some form of pagan worship (see The
Two Babylons) but interestingly, the Egyptian god Khepri, Re and Atum
were three manifestations of the Sun (morning, midday, evening), yet it
was still one Sun. Sound familiar? [See Egyptian Religion, by Siegfried
Morenz, p. 142-146]
The New Age Movement today is also associated
with witchcraft and Satanism, as was stated by Satanist Dr. Michael Aquino
on the Oprah Winfrey Show, February 17, 1988.
Most Witches/Wiccans today believe in a nature-oriented
mother-goddess who is viewed triunely as maiden, mother and crone. Three
natures, one person. This "three natures one person" belief is the same
that Trinitarians use to try and explain their 3-pronged deity.
The ancient Egyptian Triad of Thebes(see below)had a leader, Amon, who also came to represent AIR, while the other members represented the MOON.
"The indebtedness of Christian theological theory to ancient Egyptian dogma is nowhere more striking than in the doctrine of the Trinity. The very same terms used of it by Christian theologians meet us again in the inscriptions and papyri of Egypt." Professor Sayce Gifford Lectures and Hibbert Lectures
Trying to define God with nature is obviously nothing new, but we have to ponder...."Stay away from people who are not followers of the Lord! Can someone who is good get along with someone who is evil? Are light and darkness the same?...Can people who know the Lord have anything in common with those who don't? DO IDOLS BELONG IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD?" 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 CEV
"Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it...pagan
cultures contributed to the syncretist results. From Egypt came the ideas
of a divine Trinity..." (Caeser and Christ, page 595)(Lawson, Newton
& Durant)
CARM:You took my writing, copied it without permission,
and misrepresented
what I said... shame on you.
Editor: You took the WTS writing's without permission,
and misrepresented what they
said. Shame on you. At least I had the decency to link
back to you, so
remove the log in your own eye buddy before you start
pointing fingers.
-Heinz
http://hector3000.future.easyspace.com
CARM: I want you to remove my material.
You have misrepresented me and violated my copyright.
You have 48 hours or I will report you.
matt slick
Editor: It may be true that your work is copyrighted.
Unfortunately, from your perspective, this does not
prevent one from incorporating parts of it in
another academic, non-profit criticism of such work.
I will refer you to the Fair Use section of United
States' Copyright Law:
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Fair Use Clause
107: Limitatons on exclusive rights: Fair Use
Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106,
the fair use of a copyrighted work, including
such use by reproduction in copies or phone
records or by any other means specified by that
section, for purposes such as criticism, comment,
news reporting, teaching (including multiple
copies for classroom use), scholarship, or
research, is not an infringement of copyright.
In determining whether the use made of a work
in any particular case is a fair use, the
factors to be considered shall include:
1.The purpose and character of the use, including
whether such use is of a commercial nature or is
for nonprofit educational purposes;
2.the nature of the copyrighted work;
3.the amount and substantiality of the portion used
in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
4.the effect of the use upon the potential market
for or value of the copyrighted work.
(added pub. l 94-553, Title I, 101, Oct 19, 1976,
90 Stat 2546)
Remember Mr. Slick, the copyright thing goes both ways,
and at least i had
the decency to link back to you.
"Listen dear friends. Isn't it clear by now that God
operates quite differently? He chose the world's down-and-out as the kingdom's
first citizens, with full rights and privileges. This kingdom is promised
to anyone that loves God. And here you are abusing these same citizens!
Isn't it the high and mighty who exploit you, and use the courts to rob
you blind." James 2:6 The Message
-Heinz
CARM: true, and misrepresentation of it is sin and illegal.
Now, remove it.
Whether or not I did what was right or wrong, in YOUR
opinion, does not
change the fact that what YOU did was wrong.
Now, remove it!
Editor: Consider yourself removed. Your opinions are neither
original nor ingenious.
It should be noted that CARM still has entire pages on
their web site of copyrighted quotes that does not belong to them, nor
do they have permission to post it.